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Buddhist shelf · Pali Canon · Dīgha Nikāya 7

JāliyasuttaIs the Soul Distinct from the Body?

The Pali beside T. W. Rhys Davids’s English translation of 1899, from Dialogues of the Buddha, part 1.

Public domain. Rhys Davids’s translation was published in 1899; he died in 1922. The Pali is the Mahāsaṅgīti edition published by SuttaCentral under CC0. Rhys Davids prints the page numbers of the Pali Text Society edition in his translation, and SuttaCentral records the same page numbers in the Pali, so each PTS page of Pali (pp. 159–160) is shown beside the English of that page. Where he abridges a repeated passage, the Pali page is shown with a note.

PTS p. 159

Pali

Evaṁ me sutaṁ— ekaṁ samayaṁ bhagavā kosambiyaṁ viharati ghositārāme.

Tena kho pana samayena dve pabbajitā— muṇḍiyo ca paribbājako jāliyo ca dārupattikantevāsī yena bhagavā tenupasaṅkamiṁsu; upasaṅkamitvā bhagavatā saddhiṁ sammodiṁsu. Sammodanīyaṁ kathaṁ sāraṇīyaṁ vītisāretvā ekamantaṁ aṭṭhaṁsu. Ekamantaṁ ṭhitā kho te dve pabbajitā bhagavantaṁ etadavocuṁ: “kiṁ nu kho, āvuso gotama, taṁ jīvaṁ taṁ sarīraṁ, udāhu aññaṁ jīvaṁ aññaṁ sarīran”ti?

“Tena hāvuso, suṇātha sādhukaṁ manasi karotha, bhāsissāmī”ti.

“Evamāvuso”ti kho te dve pabbajitā bhagavato paccassosuṁ. Bhagavā etadavoca:

“idhāvuso, tathāgato loke uppajjati arahaṁ, sammāsambuddho …pe… Evaṁ kho, āvuso, bhikkhu sīlasampanno hoti.

English Rhys Davids 1899

[This Sutta having been incorporated, word for word, as §§ 15-19, inclusive, in the last Sutta, the reader is referred to the translation given there.

The Mahâli Sutta must have already included, when the Dîgha was put together, this Gâliya episode. For there would otherwise be no reason for the Mahâli Sutta being put into the Sîlakkhanda Vagga, the Sîlas being contained only in that episode.

Why then should the episode appear also again, in full, as a separate Sutta? Is it merely because of the importance of the question? We have another instance of a similar kind, where the episode of Nigrodha's question, only referred to at § 23 of the Kassapa-Sîhanâda Sutta, is set out afterwards, in full, in the Udumbarîka Sîhanâda Sutta (No. 25 in the Dîgha). But there the whole episode is not given twice in full. Such cross-references are fairly frequent in the Pitakas, and are of importance for the history of the literature. One of the most striking cases is where the Samyutta quotes a Sutta, now contained in the Dîgha, by name. (Sakka-pañha Sutta, S. III, 13; compare Sum. I, 51; Mil. 350.)]

PTS p. 160

Pali

…pe… Paṭhamaṁ jhānaṁ upasampajja viharati. Yo kho, āvuso, bhikkhu evaṁ jānāti evaṁ passati, kallaṁ nu kho tassetaṁ vacanāya: ‘taṁ jīvaṁ taṁ sarīran’ti vā ‘aññaṁ jīvaṁ aññaṁ sarīran’ti vāti.

Yo so, āvuso, bhikkhu evaṁ jānāti evaṁ passati, kallaṁ tassetaṁ vacanāya: ‘taṁ jīvaṁ taṁ sarīran’ti vā ‘aññaṁ jīvaṁ aññaṁ sarīran’ti vāti.

Ahaṁ kho panetaṁ, āvuso, evaṁ jānāmi evaṁ passāmi. Atha ca panāhaṁ na vadāmi: ‘taṁ jīvaṁ taṁ sarīran’ti vā ‘aññaṁ jīvaṁ aññaṁ sarīran’ti vā …pe…

dutiyaṁ jhānaṁ … tatiyaṁ jhānaṁ … catutthaṁ jhānaṁ upasampajja viharati. Yo kho, āvuso, bhikkhu evaṁ jānāti evaṁ passati, kallaṁ nu kho tassetaṁ vacanāya: ‘taṁ jīvaṁ taṁ sarīran’ti vā ‘aññaṁ jīvaṁ aññaṁ sarīran’ti vāti?

Yo so, āvuso, bhikkhu evaṁ jānāti evaṁ passati kallaṁ, tassetaṁ vacanāya: ‘taṁ jīvaṁ taṁ sarīran’ti vā ‘aññaṁ jīvaṁ aññaṁ sarīran’ti vāti.

Ahaṁ kho panetaṁ, āvuso, evaṁ jānāmi evaṁ passāmi. Atha ca panāhaṁ na vadāmi: ‘taṁ jīvaṁ taṁ sarīran’ti vā ‘aññaṁ jīvaṁ aññaṁ sarīran’ti vā …pe…

ñāṇadassanāya cittaṁ abhinīharati abhininnāmeti … yo kho, āvuso, bhikkhu evaṁ jānāti evaṁ passati, kallaṁ nu kho tassetaṁ vacanāya: ‘taṁ jīvaṁ taṁ sarīran’ti vā ‘aññaṁ jīvaṁ aññaṁ sarīran’ti vāti.

Yo so, āvuso, bhikkhu evaṁ jānāti evaṁ passati kallaṁ tassetaṁ vacanāya: ‘taṁ jīvaṁ taṁ sarīran’ti vā ‘aññaṁ jīvaṁ aññaṁ sarīran’ti vāti.

Ahaṁ kho panetaṁ, āvuso, evaṁ jānāmi evaṁ passāmi. Atha ca panāhaṁ na vadāmi: ‘taṁ jīvaṁ taṁ sarīran’ti vā ‘aññaṁ jīvaṁ aññaṁ sarīran’ti vā …pe….

…pe… Nāparaṁ itthattāyāti pajānāti. Yo kho, āvuso, bhikkhu evaṁ jānāti evaṁ passati, kallaṁ nu kho tassetaṁ vacanāya: ‘taṁ jīvaṁ taṁ sarīran’ti vā ‘aññaṁ jīvaṁ aññaṁ sarīran’ti vāti?

Yo so, āvuso, bhikkhu evaṁ jānāti evaṁ passati, na kallaṁ tassetaṁ vacanāya: ‘taṁ jīvaṁ taṁ sarīran’ti vā ‘aññaṁ jīvaṁ aññaṁ sarīran’ti vāti.

Ahaṁ kho panetaṁ, āvuso, evaṁ jānāmi evaṁ passāmi. Atha ca panāhaṁ na vadāmi: ‘taṁ jīvaṁ taṁ sarīran’ti vā ‘aññaṁ jīvaṁ aññaṁ sarīran’ti vā”ti.

Idamavoca bhagavā. Attamanā te dve pabbajitā bhagavato bhāsitaṁ abhinandunti.

English Rhys Davids 1899

Rhys Davids does not translate this page in full: he abridges the passage, which repeats words translated earlier, in a bracketed note on the page before.

English source

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English: T. W. Rhys Davids, Dialogues of the Buddha, part 1, Sacred Books of the Buddhists vol. 2 (London: Henry Frowde, Oxford University Press, 1899), public domain. Transcription: Internet Sacred Text Archive (public-domain file; credit link requested by the archive). Rhys Davids’s introductions and notes are his own, from the same edition. PTS page numbers are those of the Pali Text Society edition of the Dīgha Nikāya, which Rhys Davids prints in square brackets and SuttaCentral records for each segment. Pali text: Mahāsaṅgīti edition via SuttaCentral, CC0.